Russian Spies, Pigeons, and The Rest Is Classified…
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Hi, everybody. Welcome to The Rest is History. Tom, today we're going to tell the listeners about an absolutely thrilling new venture from Goldhanger, aren't we? The Rest is Classified, telling the very best stories from the world of espionage. And it's presented, or I should say co-presented, by somebody who is incredibly close to your heart.
He absolutely is. So one of the presenters is a former CIA analyst who now writes spy novels, and that's David McCloskey. But the man who is also presenting it, a man very close to my heart, is Gordon Carrera. uh so bbc security correspondent but more germainly massive enthusiast for pigeons who first alerted me to the massive role that pigeons have played in history you will then remember i nagged you for days weeks months was it a year no there was no nagging required to do a whole episode on pigeons which i think everyone would agree was a complete triumph i bargained them down from a series And Gordon alerted us to the pigeon gap, the fact that China is way ahead of us when it comes to pigeons, pigeon communications. And it'd be interesting to find out from him whether he thinks that we've managed to close the pigeon gap. But more germainly, Gordon, welcome to the show and congratulations on The Rest Is Classified. Clearly, both of you were massive experts on the world of espionage.
But how did you come to find yourselves doing this podcast? Gordon
Pigeons, Tom. It all comes back to pigeons, the superheroes of history. I think if I hadn't appeared on The Rest is History doing pigeons, I don't think I'd have understood the power of podcasting, not least, and enjoyed it so much. And it's fascinating. After a career, 20-odd years broadcasting at the BBC, I appear on The Rest is History to talk about pigeons. And that is all anyone wants to talk to me about. They go, I heard you... I heard you on The Rest is History. So I suddenly realised, I think the power of podcasting came to life at that moment, brought to life through the superheroes of pigeons. And I think that was one of the foundational reasons for The Rest is Classified coming into being.
There are a few others as well, which is people do love stories about spies and secrets. And me and David enjoy a good spy story as well.
Well, on that issue of spies and secrets, so tell us a little bit about the kind of spy stories that we can expect when we tune into The Rest is Classified.
Well, we've got a rich array from history right up to the present. So we started off with a coup in Iran in 1953, engineered by Britain and America and the MI6 and the CIA to overthrow Mossadegh in Iran. We've also looked at the first chief of MI6, a wonderful character called Mansfield Cumming, who was founding MI6, the British Secret Service, around the time of the First World War. Famously, he had a wooden leg and he wouldn't tell new recruits that he had a wooden leg. And they'd come into his office and he would stab himself with a penknife in the wooden leg to test whether or not they'd flinch. And if they flinched, he knew they weren't good enough for the British Secret Service.
Very Kingsman.
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