Gorgi Coghlan

Not at all.

If you get called into the CEO's office, can I have a word?

And it feels like an ambush or it feels like rushed.

It feels like maybe it's just not feeling right.

No, that doesn't suit me.

But you let me know when it could suit because I could tell you want to talk to me about something important and then we can both be on the same page.

Like even that, game changer.

Yeah.

I love that about you.

I really love hearing that, Lael, because – particularly from you – because, my God, you get people offside.

Like, you just – you work out pretty quickly who doesn't like that sort of woman.

A man can do it.

But when you are so self-assured and you don't take shit, you have got to be ready.

You honestly have to be ready to be disliked by both –

Women and particularly men, but particularly people in your family that are so used to controlling or saying, well, this is the way we do it.

And if you say, well, that sounds like that's really working for you.

That doesn't work for me.

Oh, my God, you are enemy number one.

Yeah.

Enemy number one because you have stood in your truth and said, that doesn't work for me.