Gov. Wes Moore

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The Bulwark Daily · S2 Ep1004: Wes Moore: The System Doesn't Work for a Lot of People · 20 Mar 2025 podcast

Tagging and loitering in a drug-free zone. That's crazy. But this is real. You know what I'm saying? And I remember they would have all these meetings. And I talked to my mother about this because even at school, because I ended up getting kicked out of school in seventh grade, ended up going to a military school in eighth grade. What did you do in seventh grade? What did you do for that?

That one was actually pretty justified. That was everything from skipping class to fights to there was an incident with a smoke bomb. It was bad. That one actually was probably pretty deserved. The handcuffs were not. The kicked out of school probably wasn't. But I say that because they would have all these meetings.

And I remember talking to my mom about it, where I was like, there are all these people are meeting about me without me. Like they're talking about me. But never once did anyone ever ask me, what is going on? Because the thing is, if they did, I might have actually told them. But there was never an interest to actually ask me, what is up with the anger? Why are you constantly getting into fights?

Why are you not showing up to school? That this was almost like you're dealing with me like I'm a problem that has to be fixed, but not like I'm an asset. And not like I actually had a say in this. And I think that's what happened.

That is what happened with a lot of culture when it comes to men and particularly black men, men of color, et cetera, young boys, et cetera, where we're just like, we're not being part of the conversation. We're just subjects of the conversation. And I remember... I was at a barbershop once, and my son actually goes to the same barbershop that I went to when I used to have to get haircuts.

So my son goes in and out, and I remember hearing this conversation that we were having. And someone said something really interesting, because they were talking about all the supports that are happening for black women. And one of the guys is a barber who actually is the I think is I think is three girls. And so he's a real girl dad and all the kind of stuff.

And he's like, but he's like, listen, I'm all for all the things that are happening to support my daughters. But he said, I just do not want black girl magic to turn into black boy tragic. And I thought that was such an interesting way of phrasing this out. It's almost like society stopped caring. And society now deals with this issue of young men and boys as just a problem.

And I think that that is part of the thing where it's where, to your point, I don't think there's even a level of curiosity that people have until we're talking about election rolls. But if that's what motivates you to start talking about this issue, then, dude, it's like you really don't get it, do you?

fundamentally getting rid of this whole kind of way of categorizing everybody yeah i i think what it is it's just it's being honest that every well all anyone's hoping for is to be seen you know i'm not asking to be a category i'm not asking to be a campaign platform i'm not asking to be a talking point do you see me or not Do you care about me? Do you care about my future?

Are you actually interested in removing the barriers that in many ways have been intentionally put in front of me? The reason I had handcuffs on my wrist when I was 11 years old is because I came up in a community that was over-policed and we knew it. A community that this was the way that young boys were dealt with. was criminalizing.

That we came up in a framework where we knew that for a lot of the young boys who were learning differently than the young girls when they were coming up, that we were then either punished or medicated. without understanding that sometimes it just takes a little bit more time and understanding and acceptance.

Came up in environments where, you know, the reason that we want to recruit more men into the classroom, also partially because that a lot of the kids who are inside those classrooms are kids who are coming from single parent, oftentimes women only dominated homes. And so some of the first examples and role models

that a lot of these young boys are gonna have of how a man acts, talks, walks, et cetera, could be that teacher inside that classroom. And so these are the type of things that I think we just have to have a measure of honesty about, that introducing and celebrating this idea of masculinity or whatever we wanna call it, it's not a bad thing.

But I do think we have to be honest about the problem in the first place and actually have a real sincerity about ways we're going to address it and not a motivation of what can we do to increase voter rolls.

I would say it's because Trump spoke to the frustration well. Trump spoke to the anger well. You know, when Trump talked about how the system doesn't work and the system is broken and, you know, and now for Trump, everything is personalized. So he's like the system persecuted me. Right.

So for Trump, everything is always personal, but, but Trump does a masterful job of speaking to the frustration and speaking to the fact that, you know what, you don't think this society works, do you? Neither do I. You think these people look down on you, right? They look down on me too.

You think that you can work and do all this kind of stuff and this person's gonna get the job offered before you, right? You think that this person, that their child is gonna get into college before your child, right? This person's gonna take the spot on your daughter's sports team, right? Yeah, so do I. So he is an amazing vessel for the frustration, right?

there wasn't this move to Donald Trump because people believed in him. There's a move to Donald Trump because people didn't believe in the system. That's what he represented. And if we cannot be honest about this system does not work for a lot of people where they feel like they're doing everything right. We are doing our work. We are we are protecting our family and we still can't get ahead.

Then do not ask me to vote for the party that's protecting the status quo or who's saying I want a continuation of this because many people did not. And that's what he mastered.

All right?

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