Greg Jenner

So, I mean, that's a strange dynamic, I suppose, that she's there for nearly 18 years and she's fond of the man who's enslaved her. That's complicated stuff, Desiree, isn't it?

Who is she married to? And is it her choice? How does this work?

Who is she married to? And is it her choice? How does this work?

In 1826, Desiree, something important happens in Isabella's life, in many lives, actually. Do you want to guess what it is? Or maybe you know what it is. 1826 in New York's history.

In 1826, Desiree, something important happens in Isabella's life, in many lives, actually. Do you want to guess what it is? Or maybe you know what it is. 1826 in New York's history.

So yeah, yeah. Bang on. Michelle, 4th of July, 1827, which then comes into act in 28th.

So yeah, yeah. Bang on. Michelle, 4th of July, 1827, which then comes into act in 28th.

Michelle, this state of New York abolishes slavery or what is the definition?

Michelle, this state of New York abolishes slavery or what is the definition?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Official Cornell degree for you, Desiree.

Official Cornell degree for you, Desiree.

Oh.

Oh.

That's heartbreaking. And also, presumably that means the children could be taken away from her still.

That's heartbreaking. And also, presumably that means the children could be taken away from her still.

Oh, man. So Isabella takes things into her own hands and she goes on the run. Does she take any of her kids with her?

Oh, man. So Isabella takes things into her own hands and she goes on the run. Does she take any of her kids with her?

And does she escape or does she get tracked down?