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Oh, that's heartbreaking. Isn't it? That's so heartbreaking. So she was executed. Do you want to guess how old she was at this point on her death? What are we, 17? So she's like young. What is she, in her 20s? No, 37. Oh, she's 37. Oh my gosh. Extraordinary life. I think, as you said at the beginning of the episode, Jen, a lot of the things we know about her are not true. But actually a lot of the things that the French people knew about her were not true. She was the victim of scandal and rumour and gossip.

Kiitos paljon, professori Kate. Kiitos, Jen. Ja kuuntelija, jos haluat enemmän Jenista, meillä on esiintyjät Emma of Normandyin. Ja tietenkin me teimme Hernán Cortés a Melintzin. Se oli erittäin mielenkiintoista. Ja for more controversial French queens, listen to our episode on Catherine de Medici. That one was a fun hoot.

Ja muistakaa, että jos tykkäsit podcastia, niin osaa videon ystävien kanssa. Tarkoita You're Dead to Meä BBC Soundin Yhdysvalloissa, jotta saat videon 28 päivää myöhemmin. Mutta haluaisin sanoa ison kiitoksen meidän esiintyjillemme History Cornerissa. Meillä oli mahtava professori Katherine Asprey Warrickin yliopistossa. Kiitos Kate.

And a comedy corner we have the brilliant Jen Brister. Thanks again, Jen. Oh, what a treat, Greg. Thank you. And to you, lovely listener, join me next time as we engage in some more historical myth-busting. But for now, I'm off to go and get my hands on my own delicious swede. Keep it classy, people. I'm talking about the root vegetable. Bye! That's a good one. Thank you. You're Dead to Me is a BBC Studios production for BBC Radio 4.

Hello and welcome to You're Dead to Me, the Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history seriously.

My name is Greg Jenner.

I'm a public historian, author and broadcaster.

Today we're mounting our war elephants and marching back to the ancient Mediterranean to learn all about the Carthaginian general Hannibal Barca.

And joining our campaign, we have two very special comrades in arms.

In History Corner, she's Professor of Ancient History at the University of Cambridge and a specialist on Roman, North African and Phoenician history and archaeology.

You might have read her award-winning book In Search of the Phoenicians or her best-selling award-nominated new one, How the World Made the West, a 4,000-year history.

It's brilliant.

It's Professor Josephine Quinn.

Welcome, Jo.

Thanks for having me.

Delighted to have you here.

And in Comedy Corner, he's a comedian, writer and presenter.

You'll have seen him on all the TV shows like Live at the Apollo, Love Island After Sun, Roast Battle, Mock the Week, Dancing on Ice or heard him on the radio on News Jack Unplugged, Infinite Monkey Cage, Black Label.

And of course, you'll remember him from our episode on Victorian bodybuilding.

It's Darren Harriot.