Greg Rosalski

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658 appearances 8 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 1 Jul

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Planet Money · Can transforming neighborhoods help kids escape poverty? · 28 Jan 2026 podcast

So that's actually something I want to drill down on.

And I realize this is in some ways beyond the scope of the paper, but it feels like a really present question, which is, what are the possible stories for why that's occurring?

Raj's last theory is the one he personally finds the most compelling, and it's about what kids think is even possible for themselves.

Now there's a part of me that reads a study like this and is like, this is great.

We did it.

We have an answer now for how to reduce poverty, how to like cause upward mobility.

We're done.

But then it never seems to work out quite that cleanly in the real world.

So next, we're going to talk about how we're actually doing as a country at putting the ideas from this study into practice.

And we're going to go back to Wysina, who raised her own son in a Hope Six development, to see what she thinks about the study.

All of that after the break.

Okay, so there are a few things you need to understand about HOPE VI, this program that really changed outcomes for kids who grew up in public housing.

The first is that it doesn't exist anymore.

Funding for the HOPE VI program ended 14 years ago.

Raj and Matt made it very clear that it would actually be a mistake to read their research as a recommendation to just resurrect Hope Six.

As part of their research, they built an interactive map that lets you zoom in on 1,500 different neighborhoods around the country that could benefit from something like HOPE VI.

These neighborhoods with concentrated poverty that could be better connected to more affluent neighborhoods nearby.

So, how does all this look to someone who actually lived through it?

I asked Wysina, the woman who showed me around the Richard Allen Homes, what she made of this study.

Because she has this really interesting perspective on the changes that came with Hope Six.

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