Guillaume Verdon
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first heard Dec 2023
last heard Dec 2023
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Yeah, I mean, it's allowable by the laws of physics. The reality, though, is that the correlations decay with distance. And so you're going to have to pay the price not too far away from where you extract it. Sure.
I think it's useful to think about because we got to ensure we're anti-fragile and we're trying to increase our capabilities as fast as possible because we could get... Like there's no laws of physics against there being life elsewhere that could evolve and become an advanced civilization and eventually come to us. Do I think they're here now? I'm not sure.
I mean, I've read what most people have read on the topic. I think it's interesting to consider. And to me, it's a useful thought experiment to instill a sense of urgency in developing technologies and increasing our capabilities to make sure we don't get disrupted, right? Whether it's a form of AI that disrupts us or a foreign intelligence from a different planet.
Either way, increasing our capabilities and becoming formidable as humans, I think that's really important so that we're robust against whatever the universe throws at us.
Well that's why we work on quantum sensors, right? They can sense gravity.
Statistically speaking, right, if we observe some sort of alien life, it would most likely be some sort of virally self-replicating von Neumann-like probe system, right? And it's possible that there are such systems that... I don't know what they're doing at the bottom of the ocean, allegedly, but maybe they're collecting minerals from the bottom of the ocean. Yeah. But...
That wouldn't violate any of my priors, but am I certain that these systems are here? And it'd be difficult for me to say so, right? I only have secondhand information about there being data. About the bottom of the ocean?
I mean, frankly, when I had the idea for the type of computer I'm building now, I think it was eight years ago now, it really felt like it was being beamed from space. I was in bed just shaking, just thinking it through and I don't know. But do I believe that legitimately? I don't think so. But, you know...
I think that alien life could take many forms, and I think the notion of intelligence and the notion of life needs to be expanded much more broadly to be less anthropocentric or biocentric.
I think the journey to understand something called ADS-CFT. So the journey to understand quantum gravity through this picture where a hologram of lesser dimension is actually dual or exactly corresponding to a bulk theory of quantum gravity of an extra dimension. And the fact that this sort of duality comes from trying to learn deep learning-like representations of the boundary.
And so, at least part of my journey someday on my bucket list is to apply quantum machine learning to these sorts of systems, these CFDs or They're called SYK models and learn an emergent geometry from the boundary theory. And so, we can have a form of machine learning to help us understand quantum gravity, right?
Which is, you know, still a holy grail that I would like to hit before I leave this earth.
Black holes are really fascinating objects. They're at the interface between quantum mechanics and gravity, and so they help us test all sorts of ideas. I think that for... Many decades now, there's been sort of this black hole information paradox that things that fall into the black hole seem to... We seem to have lost their information.
Now, I think there's this firewall paradox that has been allegedly resolved in recent years by... You know, a former peer of mine, who's now a professor at Berkeley. And there, it seems like there is, as information falls into a black hole, it's sort of sort of a sedimentation, right?
As you get closer and closer to the horizon from the point of view of the observer on the outside, the object slows down infinitely as it gets closer and closer. And so, everything that is falling to a black hole from our perspective gets sort of sedimented and tacked on to the near horizon. And at some point, it gets so close to the horizon, it's in
the proximity or the scale in which quantum effects and quantum fluctuations matter. And that infalling matter could interfere with the traditional pictures, that it could interfere with the creation and annihilation of particles and antiparticles in the vacuum.
And through this interference, one of the particles gets entangled with the infalling information and one of them is now free and escapes. And that's how there's sort of mutual information between the outgoing radiation and the infalling matter. But getting that calculation right I think we're only just starting to put the pieces together.
I don't know. I just want to, you know, set up shop near it to fast forward, you know, meet a future civilization, right? Like if we have a limited lifetime, if you can go orbit a black hole and emerge...
To orbit and obviously not fall into it.
Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. We have to answer... what black holes are. Are we punching a hole through space-time and creating a pocket universe? It's possible, right? Then that would mean that if we ascend the Kardashev scale to beyond Kardashev Type 3, we could engineer black holes with specific hyperparameters to transmit information to new universes we create.
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