Guillaume Verdon
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first heard Dec 2023
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And so, we can have progeny, right? That are new universes. And so, even though our universe may reach a heat death, we may have a way to have a legacy, right? And so... We don't know yet. We need to ascend the Kardashev scale to answer these questions, right? To peer into that regime of higher energy physics.
The Kardashev scale is a measure of our energy production and consumption. And really, it's a logarithmic scale. And Kardashev type 1 is a milestone where we are producing the equivalent wattage to all the energy that is incident on Earth from the Sun. Kardashev type two would be harnessing all the energy that is output by the sun. And I think type three is like the whole galaxy. I think flow.
Yeah. Yeah. And then some people have some crazy type four and five, but I don't know if I believe in those, but to me, it seems like from the first principles of thermodynamics that again, this there's this concept of thermodynamic energy, driven, dissipative adaptation where life evolved on Earth because we have this sort of energetic drive from the sun, right?
We have incident energy and life evolved on Earth to capture energy. figure out ways to best capture that free energy to maintain itself and grow. And I think that that principle, it's not special to our Earth-Sun system. We can extend life well beyond and we kind of have a responsibility to do so because that's the process that brought us here.
So we don't even know what it has in store for us in the future. It could be something of beauty we can't even imagine today, right?
The goal is for the human techno capital memetic machine to become self-aware and to hyperstitiously engineer its own growth. So let's, let's define each of those words. So you have humans, you have technology, you have capital, and then you have, you have memes information, right? And all of those systems are coupled with one another, right?
Humans work at companies, they acquire and allocate capital. And humans communicate via memes and information propagation. And our goal was to have a sort of viral optimistic movement that is aware of how the system works fundamentally. It seeks to grow. And we simply want to lean into the natural tendencies of the system to adapt for its own growth.
We see Iyak as a sort of meta-heuristic, a sort of very thin cultural framework from which you can have much more opinionated forks, right? Fundamentally, we just say that what got us here is this adaptation of the whole system based on thermodynamics, and that process is good and we should keep it going. That is the core thesis.
Everything else is, okay, how do we ensure that we maintain this malleability and adaptability? Well, clearly not suppressing variance and maintaining free speech, freedom of thought, freedom of information propagation. and freedom to do AI research is important for us to converge the fastest on the space of technologies, ideas, and whatnot that lead to this growth.
And so ultimately, there's been quite a few forks. Some are just memes, but some are more serious, right? Vitalik Buterin recently made a DIAC fork. He has his own sort of fine tunings of IAC.
I would say that it's trying to find a middle ground between EAC and sort of EA and EA safety. To me, like having a movement that is opposite to what was the mainstream narrative that was taking over Silicon Valley was important to sort of shift the dynamic range of opinions. True. It's like the balance between centralization and decentralization.
The real optimum is always somewhere in the middle. But for EAC, we're pushing for entropy, novelty, disruption, malleability, speed, rather than being conservative, suppressing thought, suppressing speech, adding constraints, adding... too many regulations slowing things down. We're trying to bring balance to the force, right? The systems... Balance to the force of human civilization, yeah.
It's literally the forces of constraints versus the entropic force that makes us explore, right? Systems are optimal when they're at the edge of criticality between order and chaos, right? Between constraints, energy minimization and entropy, right? Systems want to equilibrate, balance these two things. And so I thought that the balance was lacking.
And so we created this movement to bring balance.
thinking of culture almost like code, right? Nowadays, I mean, what you prompt the LLM or what you put in the constitution of an LLM is basically its cultural framework, what it believes, right? And you can share it on GitHub nowadays. So starting trying to take inspiration from what has worked in this sort of machine of to adapt over the space of code, could we apply that to culture?
And our goal is to not say you should live your life this way, X, Y, Z. It's to set up a process where people are always searching over subcultures and competing for mindshare. And I think creating this malleability of culture is super important for us to converge onto the cultures and the heuristics about how to live one's life that are updated to modern times.
Because there's really been a sort of vacuum of spirituality and culture. People don't feel like they belong to any one group. And there's been parasitic ideologies that have taken up opportunity to populate this petri dish of minds, right? Elon calls it the mind virus. We call it the D-cell mind virus complex, which is the decelerative that is kind of the overall pattern between all of them.
There's many variants as well. And so, You know, if there's a sort of viral pessimism, decelerative movement, we needed to have not only one movement, but, you know, many, many variants. So it's very hard to pinpoint and stop.
Well, first of all, it's fun. It's rebellious, right? Like, you know, many, I think we lean into, there's this concept of sort of meta-irony, right? Of sort of being on the boundary of like, we're not sure if they're serious or not. And it's much more playful and much more fun, right? Like, for example, we talk about thermodynamics being our god. Mm-hmm. Right.
And sometimes we do cult like things, but there's no like ceremony and robes and whatnot. Not yet. Not yet. But ultimately, yeah, I mean, I totally agree that. It seems to me that humans wanna feel like they're part of a group. So they naturally try to agree with their neighbors and find common ground. And that leads to sort of mode collapse in the space of ideas, right?
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