Hal Puthoff

And so we got the idea, and that was the biggest discovery in this whole thing, was that apparently, as with, say, athletic ability or musical ability, there's a bell curve. And you got superstars at one end, you got duds at the other, but to some degree, anybody could do it. So that had a lot of outcome later on in the program when finally...

And so we got the idea, and that was the biggest discovery in this whole thing, was that apparently, as with, say, athletic ability or musical ability, there's a bell curve. And you got superstars at one end, you got duds at the other, but to some degree, anybody could do it. So that had a lot of outcome later on in the program when finally...

And so we got the idea, and that was the biggest discovery in this whole thing, was that apparently, as with, say, athletic ability or musical ability, there's a bell curve. And you got superstars at one end, you got duds at the other, but to some degree, anybody could do it. So that had a lot of outcome later on in the program when finally...

To give an example of a real-world result, a Soviet plane went down somewhere in Africa. That's all we knew. Somewhere in Africa, a plane went down. So Stansfield Turner, who was Carter's CIA director, knew about our remote viewing program. And so he said, well, you've got these, quote, remote viewers are supposed to be so good. Why don't they find the plane for you?

To give an example of a real-world result, a Soviet plane went down somewhere in Africa. That's all we knew. Somewhere in Africa, a plane went down. So Stansfield Turner, who was Carter's CIA director, knew about our remote viewing program. And so he said, well, you've got these, quote, remote viewers are supposed to be so good. Why don't they find the plane for you?

To give an example of a real-world result, a Soviet plane went down somewhere in Africa. That's all we knew. Somewhere in Africa, a plane went down. So Stansfield Turner, who was Carter's CIA director, knew about our remote viewing program. And so he said, well, you've got these, quote, remote viewers are supposed to be so good. Why don't they find the plane for you?

So, in fact, we had a remote viewer at our lab, and at that time we were working with Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Foreign Technology Division. They had a remote viewer. So we targeted these two remote viewers. All they knew was the plane went down somewhere in Africa, hundreds of thousands of square miles.

So, in fact, we had a remote viewer at our lab, and at that time we were working with Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Foreign Technology Division. They had a remote viewer. So we targeted these two remote viewers. All they knew was the plane went down somewhere in Africa, hundreds of thousands of square miles.

So, in fact, we had a remote viewer at our lab, and at that time we were working with Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Foreign Technology Division. They had a remote viewer. So we targeted these two remote viewers. All they knew was the plane went down somewhere in Africa, hundreds of thousands of square miles.

And to make a long story short, they described how it looked and put an X on the map that was three miles from where the plane landed. We were told that would never be revealed to the public. But it turned out that after Carter got out of office, he was giving a speech in Georgia someplace. And somebody said, well, anything happen while you're present that was really strange? He said,

And to make a long story short, they described how it looked and put an X on the map that was three miles from where the plane landed. We were told that would never be revealed to the public. But it turned out that after Carter got out of office, he was giving a speech in Georgia someplace. And somebody said, well, anything happen while you're present that was really strange? He said,

And to make a long story short, they described how it looked and put an X on the map that was three miles from where the plane landed. We were told that would never be revealed to the public. But it turned out that after Carter got out of office, he was giving a speech in Georgia someplace. And somebody said, well, anything happen while you're present that was really strange? He said,

And, oh, yeah, the Soviet plane went down in Africa. It was full of electronics. And we wanted to get it. And nobody knew where it was. And satellites couldn't find it because of all the vegetation. But we had some remote viewers, so-called. And they pinpointed where it was. And we went in and got it before the Russians could find it.

And, oh, yeah, the Soviet plane went down in Africa. It was full of electronics. And we wanted to get it. And nobody knew where it was. And satellites couldn't find it because of all the vegetation. But we had some remote viewers, so-called. And they pinpointed where it was. And we went in and got it before the Russians could find it.

And, oh, yeah, the Soviet plane went down in Africa. It was full of electronics. And we wanted to get it. And nobody knew where it was. And satellites couldn't find it because of all the vegetation. But we had some remote viewers, so-called. And they pinpointed where it was. And we went in and got it before the Russians could find it.

So, I mean, the real-world consequences came out of this stuff.

So, I mean, the real-world consequences came out of this stuff.

So, I mean, the real-world consequences came out of this stuff.

That was a breach of security, but a president can— They're allowed to do that? They're allowed to do that.

That was a breach of security, but a president can— They're allowed to do that? They're allowed to do that.