Hal Puthoff
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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The only thing that got killed was, okay, the National Archives will make available whatever information has provided them on this subject area. And the National Archives has started to do that. But as you can imagine, anybody who's got some really juicy stuff isn't going to give it to the National Archives. It's still dead in the water.
So anyway, recently I was asked to come in and brief Senator Rounds, who was one of the two people who pushed this. And he said, we're not giving up on this. Give me what you've found so far about the physics of this. Because when we try to push it, we always get the pushback that, well... You know, we're not going to make any headway.
The pilots say this is way beyond our physics, but I understand that you and your colleagues have worked on this and felt that you can provide some of the physics. We may not get the engineering yet, but we have some place to start. Is that true? Because I need to push back on the pushback.
So I gave him a long lecture on the physics, which I've also presented to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the Senate Armed Services Committee, ARAL, the Old Domain Anomalies Resolution Office. So the information is coming out into those places. And so there are those people in high positions of power in our Congress who are really pushing it.
So, for example, as it turns out tomorrow, there's going to be a big meeting. I think it was set up by Representative Luna or I think it's Representative Luna. You know, when they put out that official document saying, OK, JFK files are coming out. RFK files are coming out. MLK files are coming out. In that list, UFO files are coming out. Well, they haven't gotten there.
The Epstein files are coming out. Okay. So it's officially on that list. In fact, as it turns out tomorrow, there's going to be a big thing in Congress where They're going to have an open hearing with people coming forward to talk about that there should be some release of some steps forward to release this kind of data. So it is not a dead issue.
I mean, it is hot and there are a lot of really powerful people behind it. But you've got the resistance buried. I mean, there are people within the intelligence community and the DOD who do think we need more openness, they see the same issues I see, that we're not making much progress because everything is so compartmentalized. So it's an ongoing thing.
Yes. So it's got to be done correctly. How would one do that? Well, this write-up that Schumer and Rounds and some other people, Gillibrand and Rubio, put together said, okay, we're going to have to lay everything out on the table at a highly classified area.
We're going to have to sort our way through of what can be released that doesn't take the chance of giving our potential adversaries data they need to leap ahead of us. But nonetheless, we've got to have more collaboration so that we can move ahead faster.
So that's the job of, at least in that document, of a nine-person panel to figure out, okay, what could be released without jeopardizing our national security so much, but nonetheless accelerating the kind of collaboration we need to make headway faster.
What you've just described is what I think has to happen. I mean, because you have whistleblowers like Dave Grush coming forward, and he basically says we've got craft, we've got bodies, we've got aerospace corporations working on this behind the scenes. But in the end, that doesn't go anywhere. It doesn't really solve the problem.
And you have people come forward and said, look, I can give you the address of where the stuff is stored so we can take this out of the discussion area and really prove something. But it would take, I think, a presidential executive order or... something to light a fire under that process to have it happen. But that's all possible. It's all possible.
And when I compare, you know, where are we today as compared to where we were in 2004 or whenever that... other disclosure discussion took place at that time there was a lot of stigma there was no proof you could kind of put your hands on There was, in fact, purposely designed misinformation by the intelligence community.
So-called Robertson panel went out of their way to say this is all nonsense. So that was something you're dealing with. So there you realize, well, if I come forward and say there's really something to this, I'm really blasting through quite a brick wall here. But in the intervening decades, I think we've gotten to a point where The reasons we had to not do it then are no longer applicable.
But some of the concerns we had discussed then are still applicable and we have to pay attention to them. So I think, for example, this film that you saw that had its premiere at South by Southwest that Dan Farrow put out, and an upcoming book coming out by Jay Stratton who wrote was in charge of the UAP Task Force. These kind of things are going to accelerate that option.
And so I think it's only a matter, I mean, I would find it difficult to believe that within a decade we're not going to figure out how to do this and that there will be what you and I would call disclosure. but in a responsible way where we're not providing the enemy information they need. I mean, I recall when the DOD program was set up out of DIA, they said, well...
We need to investigate this to find out whose craft there are, you know, how do they run and whatever, whatever. And then the second reason was what if our potential adversaries get access or figure this out from their data collection before we do and they leap ahead of us. So it turned out that whole program was not based on one.
They couldn't care less where these things were coming from, what their intentions were. They're really worried about the possibility of an adversary getting ahead of us. So that was the driving force behind the whole program. Well, now having all these intervening years go by and, you know, there hasn't been any obvious super breakthrough by adversaries.
I think now is the time we could have a kind of a reconciliation process, make sure we don't put everybody in jail and anything to do with covering this up. provide proper lanes to bring various aspects of information forward. And so that's what I and colleagues that I interact with are trying to do today.
It is too much.
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