Hamish Macdonald

There was an argument that we were going to have this kind of guardrail approach that

So, yeah, you can't really regulate it because you don't know yet what it is.

But if you create some guardrails, then maybe you can ensure that whole industries, for example, aren't wiped out or that intellectual property is protected so that artists, for example, can't have all of their work taken or authors can't have just a whole...

volumes of their books consumed by large language models.

Um, but the government did not opt for, for that kind of, um, that sort of framework.

In part because, you know, Australia is in a competitive global environment and we want the investment here.

We want to attract that sort of business.

And if we're looking at industries and workforces being wiped out, then we need that.

Like we have conversations all the time about productivity and big businesses hope that the next wave of productivity is going to come from AI.

What that means for us, I think we don't really have...

the answer for, but I think, um, I think to the, I guess the sort of fundamental question that's in front of us now about whether we're in control of it or will be in control of it in the future.

I think most people that we see in our daily lives don't really understand what its capabilities already.

So I feel like we're, we may be past that.

Yes.

Have you experimented with Notebook LLM?

So I don't know if you, do we need to explain this?

Yeah, you need to explain it.

So it's, I mean, it does quite a few things, but one of the features of Notebook LLM is you can just ask it to make you a podcast on any given topic.

Yep.

And in a couple of minutes, you'll get a podcast with voices from