Hank Azaria

I mean, look, the pendulum swung way far.

Yeah.

then it swung, we're sort of feeling it swing back.

But it wasn't, hopefully it'll swing back toward the middle, but we weren't kind of at that good middle 15 years ago.

All I can say, talk from me and what I saw, none of us ever considered these things.

At least you are thinking about it.

And it might be too much sometimes, and there's some factors about it that are kind of obnoxious or over-the-top.

No.

But, you know, I never considered it.

Yeah.

And what I kind of came to was that, um,

my good intentions with it were part of the blind spot.

Because I actually really kind of got into this work and I started not just taking seminars, but giving them and talking.

You replaced Indians.

I replaced a lot of people.

I put them right out of a job.

What I felt for me, and I did feel that I saw a lot of white folks leave the conversation because they felt too attacked in the seminars themselves or by society.

And then I came upon a group that had a very inclusive calling in energy around this stuff.

And you're trying to go for more inclusion.

It's best to be inclusive in that message and kind of loving.