Hank Azaria

And they go from the beginning that like what you just said, that we're all doing our best.

We're all good intentioned.

But I found for myself and a lot of other white people that,

the good intentions themselves were part of the blind spot because it was very difficult to believe.

Because you know in your mind and heart what you meant.

I know in my mind and heart what I meant with Apu.

There was a ton of love in it and a love of Indian people and love of the comedy and love of Peter Sellers and love of the fact that it's a character that people don't get to see and blah, blah, blah.

But then when you hear a criticism of it, you tend to think that the person criticizing is either crazy, much too sensitive, or just playing the race card or something.

Because you know you didn't mean it that way.

So you have to accept the fact that sometimes impact doesn't match intent.

That there could be a part of it, it's gray, it's not black or white, that actually did have some harm.

You about to cross some fucking lines.

There's gray areas in all this.

I know, I know.

You know, we would... Probably the best, the most... One of the funniest, greatest, and...

socially impactful shows ever, right, was All in the Family, to me.

Never would get, can't make it.

You couldn't make it today.

A lot of this thing, a lot of the babies went out with the bathwater, and now it's swung back.

And I'm hoping, my optimistic hope is that the baby will return, but we'll have a little more awareness.