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What do you think would be more fitting for us?

And I ask this because if you needed like a heel to teach you how...

I feel like Logan Paul is a great example of that.

He came into the business, influencer.

He's this pure athletic talent.

But he like as the crowd is booing him, he's just like he makes you hate him even more.

Like, yeah, it's perfect.

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Like his sister.

His family.

It's like all his people.

We've texted many times over the years the quote, when someone shows you who they are the first time, believe them.

And it's like it's a helpful reminder sometimes when we're like, I thought this person was good, but I did see a glimpse of something off.

And then like down the road, she's like, see?

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Yes.

And I shared with Steph before, I was a D3 athlete.