Hannah Murphy

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I feel like to compare him as I tend to these days to Mark Zuckerberg, the Mark Zuckerberg trope is that when he fixates on something, it's like the eye of Sauron and he will have an obsession, one obsession at a time.

And at the moment for Mark Zuckerberg, it is AI.

And I think it is actually fairly similar with Musk.

From where I sit, I think X is getting a much less airtime.

There was a year or two around the takeover where he was obsessed with it.

And then there was the sort of the Trump campaigning where he was very, very active and the company itself was getting a lot of attention and resources.

And now it feels like that's sort of falling by the wayside.

And it feels like he's definitely moved into a more expansive extraterrestrial, as Stephen says place.

moment where he's trying to elevate his pitch beyond just a consumer enterprise AI.

I think that we cannot say because it seems like someone's out ahead and it seemed like, for example, just until recently, Google was way behind and then suddenly they sped up and then suddenly everyone was talking about anthropic and open AI who nobody thought anyone could use up and who were the clear front runner sort of trailing behind and reorging.

So I think it's ever morphing and there's sort of many different visions and maybe many different visions can win and Musk will perhaps have an edge on that more sci-fi vision that Stephen outlined.

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That's Amanda Blank, the CEO of Aviva, on what she did when her own shareholders crossed the line.

Every episode of Executive Decisions goes inside the moments that define a leader's career.

Executive Decisions with me, Steve Sedgwick.

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