Hannah Rosen

Ah, okay. It took—

Wait, that you worry about or have hope in the idea that there, you know, if he's not president forever, people will reinstate some regulations, some rules. They'll put a block in the slow brewing of collapse.

Wait, that you worry about or have hope in the idea that there, you know, if he's not president forever, people will reinstate some regulations, some rules. They'll put a block in the slow brewing of collapse.

Wait, that you worry about or have hope in the idea that there, you know, if he's not president forever, people will reinstate some regulations, some rules. They'll put a block in the slow brewing of collapse.

Right. The motivations run in the opposite direction, like they're suddenly making unregulated money through crypto. And why would anyone have a motivation to stop that train?

Right. The motivations run in the opposite direction, like they're suddenly making unregulated money through crypto. And why would anyone have a motivation to stop that train?

Right. The motivations run in the opposite direction, like they're suddenly making unregulated money through crypto. And why would anyone have a motivation to stop that train?

Well, Annie, thank you for paying attention and thank you for coming on the show.

Well, Annie, thank you for paying attention and thank you for coming on the show.

Well, Annie, thank you for paying attention and thank you for coming on the show.

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This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Kevin Townsend and edited by Claudina Bade. We had engineering support from Rob Smerciak, fact-checking by Sarah Krolefsky. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.

This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Kevin Townsend and edited by Claudina Bade. We had engineering support from Rob Smerciak, fact-checking by Sarah Krolefsky. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.

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Well, it actually starts with the request for the interview and him canceling it on Truth Social.

Well, it actually starts with the request for the interview and him canceling it on Truth Social.

Well, it actually starts with the request for the interview and him canceling it on Truth Social.

And I should say, again, it's worth noting, we did try to go through official channels first. And it was only once it looked like we were not going to get in that way that we procured the number. And Michael called him at 10.45 on a Saturday morning. I mean, this is so much better.