Hannah Rosen

And I should say, again, it's worth noting, we did try to go through official channels first. And it was only once it looked like we were not going to get in that way that we procured the number. And Michael called him at 10.45 on a Saturday morning. I mean, this is so much better.

And I should say, again, it's worth noting, we did try to go through official channels first. And it was only once it looked like we were not going to get in that way that we procured the number. And Michael called him at 10.45 on a Saturday morning. I mean, this is so much better.

Yes, it was that. In that phone call, Michael asked him about it, but it was fascinating. It was that all these would-be vampire slayers, the Democrats, the never Trumpers, the legal cases against him, the media critics, even his Republican opponents, they failed to drive a stake through his heart, continuing with the vampire analogy. And in doing so, they only made him stronger.

Yes, it was that. In that phone call, Michael asked him about it, but it was fascinating. It was that all these would-be vampire slayers, the Democrats, the never Trumpers, the legal cases against him, the media critics, even his Republican opponents, they failed to drive a stake through his heart, continuing with the vampire analogy. And in doing so, they only made him stronger.

Yes, it was that. In that phone call, Michael asked him about it, but it was fascinating. It was that all these would-be vampire slayers, the Democrats, the never Trumpers, the legal cases against him, the media critics, even his Republican opponents, they failed to drive a stake through his heart, continuing with the vampire analogy. And in doing so, they only made him stronger.

For instance, after January 6, when the House impeaches him, you know, Senators had a moment where they could have convicted him. That would have been a knockout blow. They did not. He was sort of banished. There was a world in which Republicans could have worked to truly implement that banishment.

For instance, after January 6, when the House impeaches him, you know, Senators had a moment where they could have convicted him. That would have been a knockout blow. They did not. He was sort of banished. There was a world in which Republicans could have worked to truly implement that banishment.

For instance, after January 6, when the House impeaches him, you know, Senators had a moment where they could have convicted him. That would have been a knockout blow. They did not. He was sort of banished. There was a world in which Republicans could have worked to truly implement that banishment.

I mean, as we went back and we reported this story, we knew there was this moment where Kevin McCarthy was in Florida for fundraisers. Trump invites him to Mar-a-Lago. A photo of the two of them is... Das ist der erste Schritt in Trumps politische Retribution.

I mean, as we went back and we reported this story, we knew there was this moment where Kevin McCarthy was in Florida for fundraisers. Trump invites him to Mar-a-Lago. A photo of the two of them is... Das ist der erste Schritt in Trumps politische Retribution.

I mean, as we went back and we reported this story, we knew there was this moment where Kevin McCarthy was in Florida for fundraisers. Trump invites him to Mar-a-Lago. A photo of the two of them is... Das ist der erste Schritt in Trumps politische Retribution.

Aber was so beeindruckend war, als wir dies wiederholt haben, weil Sie einige dieser Details vergessen, das passierte eine Woche nachdem Trump nach Washington als Pariah wegging, weil seiner Rolle am 6. Januar war. Es war nicht drei Monate später oder ein Jahr später. Eine Woche später.

Aber was so beeindruckend war, als wir dies wiederholt haben, weil Sie einige dieser Details vergessen, das passierte eine Woche nachdem Trump nach Washington als Pariah wegging, weil seiner Rolle am 6. Januar war. Es war nicht drei Monate später oder ein Jahr später. Eine Woche später.

Aber was so beeindruckend war, als wir dies wiederholt haben, weil Sie einige dieser Details vergessen, das passierte eine Woche nachdem Trump nach Washington als Pariah wegging, weil seiner Rolle am 6. Januar war. Es war nicht drei Monate später oder ein Jahr später. Eine Woche später.

after McCarthy has himself suggested maybe Trump should resign and not even serve out the final, you know, two weeks of his term, he is down there with a publicity photo that helps rehabilitate Trump. So it is striking how quickly this all begins.

after McCarthy has himself suggested maybe Trump should resign and not even serve out the final, you know, two weeks of his term, he is down there with a publicity photo that helps rehabilitate Trump. So it is striking how quickly this all begins.

after McCarthy has himself suggested maybe Trump should resign and not even serve out the final, you know, two weeks of his term, he is down there with a publicity photo that helps rehabilitate Trump. So it is striking how quickly this all begins.

The lesson is that Michael can share his own lesson. He thinks I say this too frequently, but my big takeaway from with Michael writing 12,000 words and talking to dozens of advisors is that Trump has an ability to bend reality to his will. And by never ceding, never giving any quarter...

The lesson is that Michael can share his own lesson. He thinks I say this too frequently, but my big takeaway from with Michael writing 12,000 words and talking to dozens of advisors is that Trump has an ability to bend reality to his will. And by never ceding, never giving any quarter...

The lesson is that Michael can share his own lesson. He thinks I say this too frequently, but my big takeaway from with Michael writing 12,000 words and talking to dozens of advisors is that Trump has an ability to bend reality to his will. And by never ceding, never giving any quarter...