Harry Stebbings

I don't understand because government is a mega portion of their efforts and workload today.

And like both of them, when I speak to them, are like, oh, we're absolutely coming for Europe.

So how do they get around that?

You said about obviously being involved with Anthropic since the earliest of days.

I'm just fascinated.

I think people kind of forget about their early days almost.

People talk about like, oh, SBF investing early and what a visionary he was.

What was Anthropic and Dario like in the early days?

Is there anything you would have advised them differently, knowing all that you know now?

Is it not impossible not to be hauled up in front of Congress if you reach a certain scale?

Whether you're Google or whether you're Facebook or whether you're anthropic fighting against the Pentagon, you get to a scale where it is impossible not to have that conflict.

I actually had a chat with a mutual friend of ours who asked not to be revealed.

And they said, for fuck's sake, all these PBCs, public benefit corporations, will these startup founders not just fucking win their market first?

What decision can you foresee with AMP that is aligned to your mission, but does not put the profit motive slash incentive first?

Ange, how do you secure the compute supply?

Maybe I should know this, but it's the most starved resource today.

How do you secure a resource that no one else can seemingly secure?

When you think about allocating it, are you not using compute and the cost of compute as a loss leader for your venture fund business, which then comes in and says, okay, you name any of your incredible businesses that you run, whether it's your Anthropics, your Mistrals, your Black Forest Labs, and say, okay, you'll get the compute at cost.

But for that,

We need $300 million invested.