Helena Rosenblatt

serious stuff to think of the Catholic Church coming back into power, the counterrevolutionaries, you know, what would happen to you?

So do you tolerate them?

Do you allow them to use the free press to attack constitutional government?

At what point do you censor?

We struggle with this today, and they certainly did then.

You know, famously in 1830, there is a revolution that brings what's considered a liberal government into power.

And it unfortunately fails in the 1848 revolution in France, 1830.

What happens in the French Revolution?

It's the rise of the bourgeoisie.

It's the fact that the nobles...

The privileges of the nobility are overturned and you have rule of law, civic equality.

Marx talks about this.

Communists talk about this as being the bourgeois kind of revolution and how terrible it is because it became very quickly considered a selfish regime, a money driven machine.

liberalism is really the rule of the bourgeoisie.

It's middle class.

It's money.

If you look at France, he also was really much looking at France, right?

Everybody's looking at France, what's going on with the successive revolutions.

It's like a laboratory of political ideas, right?

So this is a bourgeois revolution to them, and it's liberals who carry these ideas forward.