Hendrik “Henk” Alma

We have an X amount of projects that needs to be shipped out on a certain moments of time.

So you better make sure you have enough storage in those ports, in that port of exports, because we need some serious storage.

I can assure you that, but it's not a few fields.

So that is...

So we also have to be careful for itself.

We are not becoming our own enemy.

Also in regards to ships loading, unloading or whatever.

So that's a factor.

Then, of course, another factor is also the availability of real cars, for example, in the USA.

That is still an issue for these heavy duty real cars.

I had to speak

And that's many, many years ago that we just leased so many cars.

I believe it was 60, a pool of 64, multiple projects.

And in the middle of the night, we were puzzling everything.

And I'm not necessarily concerned about the cost, Peter, though it is important, but I'm more concerned in the risk, the risk of not having equipment available, the risk of being too late and LDs are being pulled.

And that's a huge risk.

It's much more costly.

It is much more costly.

Definitely.

So risk and not only from a time wise, but also safety wise, it adds to all the factors.