Hendrik “Henk” Alma

There are different positions.

And then you have to show your papers and proof.

And the European Union had this really crazy, created this monster where you had to fill in

all kinds of details, like how many type of electricity you used for producing steel, because we talk about the... Most companies have people dedicated just to working that.

Yeah, but I think the Europeans realized they were falling on their own knife on that one.

Now they have determined just use a factor.

Every country gets a certain factor and then you can calculate it pretty easy actually based on the tonnage you export.

So they have wasted time of a lot of people and a lot of companies in fact.

But that's my personal opinion because I know a lot of people were busy with that.

We as well.

We installed an app for that.

I went with a colleague visiting companies abroad explaining what was required.

But that storm starts to calm down as well.

Good.

Yeah, it's, and we discussed this a little bit before, because we can see the heavy lift fleet, right, reaching their older age.

That doesn't mean they should be obsolete, actually.

As I said, like, there's also another two at our disposal.

And we're definitely going to look at that.

It's like talk to your insurance companies.

Adjust the marine clauses, for example, because these ships, they are in good shape, great shape.