Henry Zeffman

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1,893 appearances 15 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 13 Sep

Henry Zeffman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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That clearly isn't happening this time.
And it has made it a strange week, hasn't it?
Not beyond their report, but I mean...
It would have been weird if he hadn't been brought into the conversations, at least to some degree.
And that reflects the reality that he is going to be the next prime minister.
I mean, I think what we'll need to report out over the next few days is there's a difference between getting a sort of very high level briefing and.
and endorsing the entire contents of it.
So it's entirely possible that Andy Burnham says, yeah, that sounds okay.
I'm pleased you found a bit more money since John Healey resigned.
That's the billion pounds to which you referred.
The government has come up with a little bit more money, but way short of the amount that John Healey said was needed before he quit as Defence Secretary.
But look, I think it's still entirely possible that within a few weeks of becoming Prime Minister, Andy Burnham and whoever his defence secretary is, might want to demonstrate that they want to go even further and add several billion pounds more.
But of course, that then would require some pretty difficult decisions about where else to spend money or rather not spend money.
The resignation of John Healy was such a significant moment.
Look, I think Keir Starmer's position, as we've been reflecting on newscasts for a while, was already very precarious.
But I suspect that once the books come to be written on this period, John Healy resigning as Defence Secretary a few weeks ago and saying Keir Starmer wasn't giving enough money for defence was perhaps...
the final nail.
And he was unable to get it, wasn't he?
Well, John Healy was unable to get that extra money, yes, but I think it also meant that it was that much harder for Keir Starmer to make an argument that, as Prime Minister, one of the things he'd got right was protecting the UK, was spending the money that needed to be spent on defence,
And so on.
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