Hester Grainger

If I put them in a cupboard, I'd almost forget they existed.

Right.

So there's just this real thing in your brain.

I don't know whereabouts it is that just we don't see it anymore.

So therefore, it doesn't belong.

It's not real.

We can't.

It just doesn't exist.

Okay.

You can do this with people as well, which is why sometimes people find it really difficult to stay friends with people, etc., because they just don't live near.

They don't see them very often.

So in their mind, the person doesn't exist anymore.

Right.

So when you've got items, say, for example, I always think vitamins is quite a good example, something that you need to take every day.

Actually, having them in a cupboard like somebody else would, maybe neurotypical people, that feels like it would work.

But we then just forget that the vitamins exist.

So what we then end up doing is having everything out that we need on the sides in the kitchen, for example, or visual somewhere.

But then the trouble is you then have lots of

mess and clutter and it can feel someone can come in and it can feel quite cluttered so it's about having a space for everything it's about knowing that actually if I need to find that that is on that shelf in that cupboard and it's being because maybe you don't need it that much so sometimes I look at things and I'll think actually why is that on the side because I don't use it even every day so actually I

I don't need it out.