Hilary Duff

And he's so good with words that I was like, I mean, obviously I always get beat.

Right.

But you're like, okay, here we go.

Yeah.

And that was right before my 30th birthday.

So he was like at my 30th birthday, which was so nice.

And it was like this really lovely moment where I like looked around my party and I was like, everyone that is here like means so much to me and has been like such an important part of my life.

Story in my like growing, you know, and it's not like a 70th birthday, but 30 is a big deal, you know?

So it was nice.

He was there for that.

And then literally –

We were going away – where's the place with all the red canyons, like in Utah or something?

Amman.

So we were there, and I remember on the way back, we're on the airplane, and I was like, when do you want to have kids?

And he was like, probably like 35, and then I was pregnant like two months later.

And I was like, gotcha.

obviously three pregnancies is a lot on a relationship and especially one or like I feel like I come with a lot of like baggage and I think just that he's willing to like really be there and shelter and

my emotions and my story and um he just kept showing up over and over and i was like cool that once i could get through that like now we get to really have like the fun you know what i mean like because i just fully trust him and that was so hard to get to that place um

And there was no secret recipe but just time and trusting my gut that like I made a good decision and that it's real and that like a person actually just cares about me.

Like it's really hard to accept that for some reason.