Holly Wainwright

Thank you.

Thank you, Holly.

I hope you're all right, friends.

I have a feeling that those who are in Grief Club felt this one deeply.

When I read this book and listened to Grace talking about it, I did a fair bit of sobbing, a whole lot of memories stirred up by its beauty, but also a lot of laughing, of nodding in recognition of those years, careering from minor crisis to entertaining disaster with your people, the ones who you think will be around forever.

Grace's book, Is It Too Early to Bitch?

is available now everywhere.

You can donate if you'd like to, to the Katie Lees Foundation that supports young women in the arts.

There's a link in the show notes.

And as Grace says, today's the day to call your best friend.

Thank you for listening to No Filter.

Kate's going to be back on board next week.

Bye.

I just want to tell you, this is one of the best interviews I've ever had.

Critter liars, done.

Hello, Holly Wainwright here.

I'm an executive editor at Mamma Mia and I have been part of this business, an independent women's media company, for more than a decade now.

I have seen a lot.

But being independent has always meant that we don't have anyone telling us to play it safe or to avoid the topics that feel a bit too messy or uncomfortable for a boardroom full of dudes to handle.

And I never take that for granted.