Holly Wainwright

She, on the other hand.

is going to stay close.

Never leave, fulfill all my needs, look after me when I'm old.

It's like, guys, haven't we moved past this?

That might be what happens, but it also might not be what happens.

Like this very stereotypical sort of jail we put girls in, which is that they are emotionally responsible for everyone around them all the time, and men are expected to go off and be emotionally responsible for other people.

That's a very complicated thing that only continues to be complicated.

I find it very, I know these things are true, but then I will always question how much of it is true because it's just what we keep telling everybody all the time.

Because women's lives have changed enormously.

Their social mobility is different.

Their professional arcs are different.

A whole lot of things are changing very quickly for women.

And so if we just keep insisting, though, that these are truths, these are unquestionable truths, that your son will be swallowed up by some other woman.

And it's this idea that I find strange that men can be taken and stolen and they belong to you.

Like none of our children actually belong to us.

And that is one of the most enormous realizations you go through as they grow up.

Yeah.

And so I wonder if we keep saying these things over and over again, we just continue to reinforce them, right?

Girls can also move off and move into other worlds.

Some men stay close.