Howie

So he'd play his best team pre-season games.

There was always that in the back of our minds that the finances of the club wasn't great.

Volunteers were critical, some of the volunteers we had and the trainers and that sort of stuff.

So, I don't know, it was just a genuine footy club and we had good players.

And he maximised the talent, really.

So in your 27th game,

You talk about the luck of where you end up.

Yeah.

You're playing in a grand final where you're down, the 96 granny, plug a kick six, you're down 38 to 20 at quarter time.

I remember the prelim because I was just trying to get a game.

So I'd played every game but I was like on the fringe every week.

You have to watch the footy show to see if you played, got a game or not.

That's how you found out?

Yep.

During the finals, you were finding out watching the footy show?

I don't know if the finals but definitely during the year you'd be watching because you'd get a phone call probably that night or the next day.

The footy show was on a Thursday, wasn't it?

That's a tense watch.

Yeah, yeah.

There used to be a number you used to call.