Howie

Trying to work out what not to do.

Well, there's 10 years of evidence.

I'm fully, I'm fully aware of, you know, I love this medium and I love the platform so much.

And I've been trying to do it for so long.

I had a lot of time to think about, you know, where I would position myself and that changed constantly over the years.

And then I finally got, you know, the chance to do it when, you know, nine, you know, let, let it go to an extent.

So once the, once they let me to,

Um, you know, go and do it.

I was ready to go.

And I thought, where are the places in Australia where people don't have a voice and long format is needed most.

And that's the explanation of, I think, everyday things, um, you know, cost of living.

politics, exactly the things we were talking about in the previous break.

And so for me, it wasn't so much about doing or finding big stars to get because, quite frankly, no one would talk to me.

It's hard to get guests and regular guests, as you guys would know.

So for me, it was like, all right, the stories are going to be the main thing for me, and I'm going to try and tap into areas where,

I think people feel let down where they feel the media, mainstream media, isn't covering the things that are most important to them.

And that starts with Cross Living Family.

And I think everyone goes, oh, it's all about politics.

But a lot of it is, but a lot of it stems from people just feeling unheard.

And I don't think that's inherently political.