Howie

And that's all the players wanted when I was coaching, was direct, just be honest.

And it's like, are you sure?

Because every time I was, it didn't, they didn't handle it well.

So back then, I think it was a bit more direct and, you know, and it wasn't like I come to my office.

It was in front of everyone.

He'd go through every player after the game.

I think he did it in the granny as well.

Really?

And, you know,

He accused me of taking my eyes off the ball sometimes.

He'd say, open the Venetians, you know, open your fucking eyes, you know.

I was like, it's pretty much called me soft.

Yeah, open the Venetians.

And that was just the time.

So, yeah, the 98 granny was one that got away.

But I don't know if we win 99 as much as Essendon were sort of, you know, they were unlucky not to get in the grand final.

But I think the redemption piece, you know, and I will fast forward later on, but we lose 15.

I don't think we win 18 without going through that.

That's what they always said about the Hawks.

If they hadn't lost 12, you got there when they won 13 and then obviously cost you in 15.