Ian De Bode

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Bankless · How Ondo Is Bringing Stocks and Perps Onchain | Ian De Bode · 2 Jul 2026 podcast

Sometimes I see, you know, where I start to diverge from the perp bulls is where they're like, you don't really need spot anymore.

Just do a perp on everything and the perp is good enough.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, no.

So I don't go that far.

But I think a PERP is a very elegant instrument and will be really a product category in and of itself.

I mean, yeah, there's going to be different regulations the moment you come into the U.S.

on any type of derivative contract, particularly if you offer it to retail as well, right?

The caps that are on retail leverage in the U.S.

are much lower than what is available offshore.

Now, you could argue that's both good and bad, right?

Try to stay away from those value judgment.

But I do think as a result, you'll continue to see an offshore market and you'll over time see an onshore market and they will be very different.

The benefit of the onshore market is that it's fully regulated and that comes with different types of protections.

Offshore, it is more not regulated.

And as a result, leverage can be higher and the like.

Some people like that.

Some people don't.

So both markets will coexist effectively.

And that in and of itself is good.

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