Ian De Bode

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Bankless · How Ondo Is Bringing Stocks and Perps Onchain | Ian De Bode · 2 Jul 2026 podcast

We try to like find that right intermediary in the middle where a user does not have to place their trust in us for the security of their funds and the security of the, and the integrity of the matching engine.

But we do off-chain execution in order to preserve privacy and get the best performance.

We call it a secure enclave model.

It's actually a technology that a startup called Enclave Markets had piloted.

They've been around for a while, running this for a while.

But Onto acquired them earlier this year.

To do this?

To do exactly this.

Yeah, I mean, it's a pretty neat system.

It's a pretty unique blend between the two.

Now, over time, I think our philosophy has always been we want to do as much as possible on public blockchains, quite frankly, because we do believe in the composability of things.

We always launch our assets on multiple blockchains.

We do the wrappers to make sure that we can integrate into DeFi, right?

We don't do the native model.

So we fundamentally believe in having everything be as permissionless as possible and composable as possible.

But given the performance and privacy trade-offs, we do believe that this current model with a secure enclave, multiple attesters is kind of the best of both worlds.

But over time, we'll shift as much as we can onto public blockchains as the tech matures.

Yeah, I think we've always believed in owning more of the stack, quite frankly, because, you know, HIP3 is good.

Hyperliquid is very good, clearly, given their volume at track record.

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