Ian De Bode

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Bankless · How Ondo Is Bringing Stocks and Perps Onchain | Ian De Bode · 2 Jul 2026 podcast

But every single position is going to be fully public, right?

Not all funds, not all institutional funds want that.

The latency is at 600 millisecond.

That's okay, but it's not as fast as, say, a Binance.

And multi-asset collateral, so this whole tokenized stock is collateral for the PERP and integrating that into the margin engine, we wouldn't be able to do on Hyperliquid, right?

Hyperliquid supports multi-asset collateral, but it's high Bitcoin and stables.

They don't support tokenized stock.

So we want to be able to control the actual margin engine to be able to list these tokenized stocks.

But in order to do that, we need to own the full stack intent.

100%.

We sit on the backing of the stocks, not hyperlocal.

Right.

We had public beta last week.

The full general availability will come in the next couple of weeks.

Okay.

We've already seen, quite frankly, more demand on this than we had anticipated, if I'm being honest.

So having those extra weeks to fully make sure the platform is robust is very helpful.

But yeah, we'll open it up in the next couple of weeks for general availability so that everyone is going to be able to have all the liquidity they want to do perks on single name equities.

So at launch, the aspiration for on the perks for sure is to have better liquidity than hyperliquid and trade XYZ on equities in particular.

A little bit of everything.

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