Ian De Bode

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Bankless · How Ondo Is Bringing Stocks and Perps Onchain | Ian De Bode · 2 Jul 2026 podcast

And it's primarily because of that dynamic that I just described.

So we will be able to support the tokenized stocks as collateral on the Hondo Perp platform.

Hondo Finance built it.

Hondo Perp is a separate entity.

It is offshore, only available to offshore investors.

But the technology is very similar to what we had built for Hondo Global Markets because we can tokenize these things online.

at scale because there's real liquidity on these tokenized stocks as collateral.

And because there's real liquidity in these tokenized stocks as collateral, you can also liquidate them in size, right?

This is ultimately then the next question of like, why doesn't everybody just do this, right?

Why does it have to be on the finance?

And I think the rationale there is if you as an exchange support collateral of any type, you need to be able to liquidate it in size.

Otherwise, as an exchange, you're going to be saddled up with a bunch of bad debt.

Ondo Finance is the issuer of the tokenized stocks.

We are literally sitting on the actual backing of the tokens.

As a result, liquidating these things in size, the rails to do that have already been built straight into the New York Stock Exchange and the NASDAQ, right?

That is why these things can be liquidated in size and why other platforms can't necessarily do that.

Oh, I think it's going to get very interesting because the moment you enable the asset as collateral on a PERP, you just enable so many new use cases.

I mean, it adds liquidity and that's the part that we've been focusing on because it makes the platform more capital efficient.

But for your average trader, it's also a much more elegant way to build a portfolio.

Like you can deposit gold, be long gold and short silver, right?

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