Ian Keatley

Like he, he didn't shy away from that.

He, he, he brought the group together and said, challenged them, challenged them to come out and perform against England.

And, and they rose to it.

And, and I think that will be, um,

will be the target for this summer yes they're leading for the world cup uh they're preparing from that they they still want to to beat australia and japan but i think beating new zealand and eden park is a huge huge goal for for any team but especially for for this team they want to leave a legacy they want to they want to leave these um these don't no stone unturned and

they do these for their careers.

Like, okay, we are the first team to beat New Zealand in Eden Park.

Like, how unbelievable is that to say?

always said hello to you and yeah it is it is sad situation for him but as we we always talk about we're we're not rugby players first we're like we have lives we have um

There is more to life than rugby and player safety and that's where it's so tough for the player and the medical staff.

The medical staff want to give the player as much chance as possible to play and the player wants to play but there does come a time where someone has to step in and make a call and I think they did it in the right way with Oli.

It was

very informative.

They talked about it, they talked about different scenarios, but I think the best solution was for Ali to decide to step down, unfortunately.

And that's the bleak side of rugby sometimes.

But yeah, once again, what a gent.

He's going to be successful in life anyway, just through his manner and his humour and his ability to connect with people.

He's a top bloke.

so probably the first one is when being held up over the line it just infuriates me that you're just about to score a try and then you get held up and then you're punished with like I was at the match Sam Brandegast kicked a ball from his end goal line all the way up to the opposition 10 even passing like that's serious punishment for nearly scoring a try so I think if you're held up

Yeah, we brought in that rule to take away scrums, but it should be another five-meter tap-and-go.