Ian Madigan

And Prendergast goes to offload it to Josh.

I don't think Josh is even expecting an offload.

He's just thinking of rookie.

Whereas on the flip side,

You know, all the French guys are expecting offloads off the ball carrier.

Do you know what's interesting about that?

Exactly.

And that's where if you're not doing it week in, week out, and the difference is when, when RG Simon's carrying the ball for Leinster, everyone's thinking offloads on here.

Yeah.

all the French players are thinking that with every player in that team.

That's the reality.

And it's also how you train.

You can't just go into a given week and go, right, let's suddenly be an offloading team.

All the drills you do in training, and I know this for a fact with Toulouse, they spend, I'd say, 80% of their time keeping the ball alive.

And

Guinhoves will flip out when a player gets tackled because he views that as a defeat.

And that's when you have a breakdown and the opportunity to turn the ball over.

The flip side of it is, though, if you can get the French players on the ground, they don't particularly like it.

And if you're looking for an offload and you don't get it away, quite often you'll end up on your back and your head will be facing the defending team.

And that's when the turnover opportunities happen.