Ione Wells
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get them on side to overthrow President Lula. There were also even allegations that he planned to poison President Lula or assassinate one of the top Supreme Court judges, for example. So there is a whole host of crimes that... President Bolsonaro has now been charged with by the top prosecutor in the country. They include instigating a coup, posing serious threats to federal property.
There are accusations as well that he may have encouraged, spurred on some of his supporters to do some of the acts that they subsequently did. And this is part of a
There are accusations as well that he may have encouraged, spurred on some of his supporters to do some of the acts that they subsequently did. And this is part of a
long long investigation that has been going on it follows a hefty police report that came out a couple of months ago and now the top prosecutor in the country has basically considered that report said there's enough evidence in there to charge him and it's now going to the Supreme Court so if the Supreme Court agree with this prosecutor's assessment Bolsonaro could well be in a lot of trouble indeed could face a trial potentially sometime later this year.
long long investigation that has been going on it follows a hefty police report that came out a couple of months ago and now the top prosecutor in the country has basically considered that report said there's enough evidence in there to charge him and it's now going to the Supreme Court so if the Supreme Court agree with this prosecutor's assessment Bolsonaro could well be in a lot of trouble indeed could face a trial potentially sometime later this year.
I think so. Yeah, I think there's a lot of debate actually at the moment about whether if Bolsonaro faces trial, and it is still an if at the moment, it will sort of help or hinder him.
I think so. Yeah, I think there's a lot of debate actually at the moment about whether if Bolsonaro faces trial, and it is still an if at the moment, it will sort of help or hinder him.
I remember actually when I was in the US for the US election in November, going to some of the Donald Trump rallies, for example, there was merchandise for sale, you know, t-shirts saying things like, I'm voting for the convicted felon.
I remember actually when I was in the US for the US election in November, going to some of the Donald Trump rallies, for example, there was merchandise for sale, you know, t-shirts saying things like, I'm voting for the convicted felon.
You know, his fan base almost using the criminal allegations that had been brought against Donald Trump as a form of sort of energy, really something that really riled up Donald Trump's base.
You know, his fan base almost using the criminal allegations that had been brought against Donald Trump as a form of sort of energy, really something that really riled up Donald Trump's base.
What do you think of the conviction? He's still going to be president.
What do you think of the conviction? He's still going to be president.
They believed, like many of Bolsonaro's supporters believe about him, that he was a victim of political persecution. And I think it's quite likely that Bolsonaro will have seen that and thought that that is actually something that he can sort of play to as well.
They believed, like many of Bolsonaro's supporters believe about him, that he was a victim of political persecution. And I think it's quite likely that Bolsonaro will have seen that and thought that that is actually something that he can sort of play to as well.
They certainly do have a sort of good relationship. And even though Jair Bolsonaro himself wasn't allowed to travel to go to the inauguration of Donald Trump, certainly when I was at the inauguration of Donald Trump, I saw a lot of Brazilian fans there, people who were Bolsonaro supporters. There was even actually a Bolsonaro impersonator on my flight from Sao Paulo to Washington.
They certainly do have a sort of good relationship. And even though Jair Bolsonaro himself wasn't allowed to travel to go to the inauguration of Donald Trump, certainly when I was at the inauguration of Donald Trump, I saw a lot of Brazilian fans there, people who were Bolsonaro supporters. There was even actually a Bolsonaro impersonator on my flight from Sao Paulo to Washington.
He did. He looked identical to, I actually thought it was Bolsonaro. I thought I'd got my hands on this amazing story that Bolsonaro somehow managed to defy his travel ban and end up on my flight. But it was actually not him. It was a professional lookalike, I should say, who had gone all the way to Washington just to be there for Donald Trump's inauguration.
He did. He looked identical to, I actually thought it was Bolsonaro. I thought I'd got my hands on this amazing story that Bolsonaro somehow managed to defy his travel ban and end up on my flight. But it was actually not him. It was a professional lookalike, I should say, who had gone all the way to Washington just to be there for Donald Trump's inauguration.
So that sort of friendship, alliance, whatever you want to call it, between both Donald Trump and Bolsonaro, but also between their fans, I think is certainly significant.