Irv Grossbeck

Then I drove to Lima, Ohio, where there was a cable system under construction.

And then I went to Finley, Ohio.

Lima, Finley, Tiffin, and Faustoria, where we ended up, were all in northwestern Ohio, south of Toledo, near the Indiana border.

So Finley had a franchise process that had already been started.

A franchise means just a local ordinance that

gives you the right to cross a general easement over the right of way to hang your cables and electronics.

They hadn't granted anybody one there yet, but there was one in process.

So then I went up the road to Tiffin and Faustoria, Ohio.

which were in the range of 12 miles apart, maybe 14.

And together, they aggregated a population of 40,000.

So we started the franchise process in Tiffin and Fostoria by hiring local lawyers and making our case that we had half an idea what we would do.

which was not true either.

But we had an idea, but we were a little lacking in the execution department.

So I was interviewing in, I think it was the spring or maybe the winter of 1992, the year that you graduated as well.

Well, I was interviewing people who had applied for case writer and some of them had been in my class.

But as you mentioned earlier, Kevin had not been in my class, but he showed up and said, I want this job.

And my recollection, which could be retrofitting history, but he said, I want this job because I need this job and I don't have another job.

And I think I'd be good at it.

And I think I might want to be an entrepreneur, something along that line.

So fortuitously, I hired him, and he became a case writer from 1992 to 1993.