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Isaac Saul

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
518 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

Sometimes it happens.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

But the analogy I use is like, it's raining outside.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

We're not arguing about whether it's raining or not that often.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

We're usually arguing about what the rain means.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

For one person, they come outside, their hair gets wet, they've spent an hour doing their makeup, they're pissed off about that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

For another person, they come outside, they realize they forgot to water the garden, it's raining, great news, I don't have to do that chore later, it's done, it's off my plate.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

Same event, really different experience for two different people.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I would say 90% of the time, our discourse and arguments are kind of in that space about what the thing means.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

And it's less about this really alternate facts, alternate reality perspective.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

That's been my experience doing the work.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

Yeah, I mean, I think one of the really nice things about our format and something that distinguishes us from a lot of other people who try and do this work, the sort of nonpartisan, we're gonna elevate different arguments, is we give ourselves space to call those kinds of logical fallacies out in this little editorial that we write every day.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

So you'll see in my take, when I write that in every day's newsletter or do it on the podcast, I'm often addressing the arguments that we're publishing

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

and trying to call some balls and strikes about what I find reasonable and what I find unreasonable.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

And I think my experience, which has been really interesting, was during the Biden administration, our newsletter was super popular with a lot of conservatives because I think it's the press's job to be adversarial.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

And I was writing a lot of adversarial things.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I was one of the first politic writers and opinion columnists who was coming out saying that Biden did not seem fit for the job in 2021, 2022.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

And I got skewered by my liberal readers, many of whom canceled subscriptions and left.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I think I ultimately was sort of justified in that perspective.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

The administration switch, Trump came in, he started doing a bunch of crazy stuff.

The Bulwark Podcast
Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

I started criticizing him for how insane some of his presidency has been.