Isaac Smith

Uh, and it gives say Toby, if he decided to go, um, a fresh start.

And it was amazing for me.

Chris Scott, um, gave me a license to play, uh, a different, not style of football, um, but play in a different way, um, to what Alistair Clarkson coached at Hawthorne.

And, um, that completely reinvigorated me.

You meet 40 new people, uh,

in terms of playing list.

You meet a whole new club.

You understand a whole different culture.

And it's amazing what the human mind does when it's getting lit up every day because there's all these new things happening and all these new things being thrown at you.

So it's a great challenge, great learning.

And if he does get the opportunity, I would say it'd be a very good opportunity for him.

And the Cats list management are just so good at understanding that type of market.

And you can only do it if you've got the talent coming through underneath.

So the Cats have still got some really strong young talent coming through.

When you can't go after this is, say, if you're a Carlton and you're looking to reload or you're an Essendon, that it doesn't really suit what you're trying to do.

But fortunate for the Cats, they've been top four or thereabouts the last 15 years.

So it means that they can reload with these 30-odd-year-olds.

Yeah, well, definitely.

They are genuinely best mates.

Toby was in his bridal party at the start of last year.