Israel Keyes

That being a contributor meant that I would have an issue with kind of advocating for clients because some clients do not belong on CNN in years past.

I would want them either on a morning show or I would want them somewhere else in terms of where I thought they were best.

But finally, they were kind of relentless.

And I did take a contributorship with the caveat that I was able to do other things.

And if it was client related, they had no input whatsoever.

And they just cut and run like nobody's business.

I think because they felt...

That they you know, there was a lot of people who were second guessing themselves about Michael when that happened.

Like I say, I think that everything that I've been hearing, I still have friends there that I've known, like I say, for decades.

And everything that I'm hearing is that Zucker's not long for the job and that people are not happy with what's happened to it.

And, you know, it's not exactly...

unpredictable i mean they kind of went all in on the trump mania and obviously once trump was gone what are you going to do so the ratings have cratered uh it's really i you know i'm old enough to remember when they would get a 10 share and now you're talking below a one share so i mean that's

I read the other day where Chris's nine o'clock show sometimes was getting nine hundred thousand people.

I mean, there was a time when CNN, you could just have the color bars on there and you get nine hundred thousand people.

And when you have to resort to talking about the demo, then you really know you're desperate.

But the demo numbers are embarrassing when you take a look at them in absolute terms.

I agree.

I think people are crying out for that.

People want that.

People want that kind of that.