Ivana Hughes

I think President Trump is probably since John F. Kennedy and then arguably Reagan as well, who was very committed to this after a certain point in his presidency.

President Trump is the only one who has said things like, we have so many nuclear weapons, we could destroy the world with them.

He has questioned our plans to modernize the nuclear arsenals and spend actually a tremendous amount of money on them.

So I think that the U.S.

public... Can I ask you to stop for a second?

Oh, those are plans that have been set in place for...

more than 10 years.

Those are plans that have been made under President Obama.

So President Obama got up in Prague and talked about the goal of a world free of nuclear weapons in 2008, and then more or less turned around and made plans for modernizing the U.S.

nuclear arsenal.

The logic is that our weapons are going to get too old and we need new ones.

But the price tag is

Currently estimated up to $2 trillion, but given the overruns and all kinds of ways in which these types of programs can go over budget, who knows?

We're literally talking about...

spending trillions of dollars to, you know, perfect the way of destroying the world.

It is all insane.

I don't think that's... I think it's a plan, you know, over a decade or two of kind of replacing.

I do think that they've, in some sense, consistently been updating.

But this is a whole other... This is like a whole sort of new way of, you know, building them, making them.

I mean, this is... A lot of this is...