J.P. Andrew

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Working Definition · Working Definition episode 12: Animals, with J.P. Andrew · 11 Jul 2026 podcast

Maybe but yeah.

So I mean I guess I I actually stated my own view less than less than carefully.

So what I actually want to say is intrinsically bad is

pain that is not in some way sanctioned by the will of a being, right?

So so, you know, like in a in a case of a painful treatment, um I'm not I I'm not sanctioning the pain that I'm experiencing.

And so I think it's still bad for me there.

But I think that rational agents have a capacity that I think non-rational agents don't have, which is that we are capable of

Sanctioning pain, like endorsing an action that we that we know is going to involve pain.

And we might even think that the pain that's involved in the action or the plan that we that we endorse is part of what makes it overall good.

Right.

So like I run marathons.

And so when I run the when I run a marathon, um, I think that I I'm experiencing a lot of pain for sure, but I I think that I'm not I'm not thereby suffering.

I'm not

This is not bad for me because it's it's an activity that I that I rationally endorse, right?

And and running a marathon that involves no pain would probably be a less meaningful experience.

Right.

But I also think this is a this is kind of a weird thing about us because my dog can't do this, right?

My my dog can't like understand, okay, yeah, like this activity is going to involve pain, but I want to do it anyway.

Um, so I think that when pain occurs in

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