J.P. Andrew

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485 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 11 Jul

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The possibility that I'm wrong about that.

So I'm I'm with you for half of that.

I'm with you in thinking that there are ways of wronging someone that don't involve causing the the person pain or the entity pain.

But I think that those forms of wrongness uh require mental capacities that I have positive reasons for thinking the electron doesn't possess.

Right.

So I think like most of the non-pain involving forms.

forms of harm are forms of harm that can only be inflicted on basically like a fellow irrational creature, right?

So like I think I have duties to you as a fellow irrational creature to respect you in ways that don't necessarily involve just not causing you pain.

I but I also think that the electron is not gonna possess any of those capacities.

In fact, I think most other animals aren't going to possess those capacities either.

That's two ways of saying the same thing.

I mean and I don't um I don't wanna make a I don't want to seem to make a stronger c claim than I'm

wanting to make because uh yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not thinking about

the way that we should relate to other animals in purely utilitarian terms.

I'm not a utilitarian actually.

I and so I but yeah, I think that like most kinds of non pain involving harm are going to be harms that we associate with uh with

other rational creatures.

But yeah, I think that there there are ways of wronging non human animals apart from causing them pain.

So we would be on the same page about that.

I y we we would part ways there.

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