Jack Barsky
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Surveillance detection or something?
Yes, Surveillance Detection Route.
This is actually an internationally recognized abbreviation.
The FBI uses it the same way.
So this is what you do.
Counterintelligence needs to follow you when you're out and about.
And so the idea was that you have to have a fictitious reason to go there, there, and there.
Department stores, going to a movie and buying a ticket.
And the whole idea is if counterintelligence follows you, they know that you're doing what you're doing.
However, there's no proof.
If you see the same face twice within three hours, you know that you're being followed.
I had really extensive training in Moscow where we practiced this about a dozen times.
And sometimes I had nobody following me and sometimes I had a whole team following me.
And it was a competition.
And the test was to figure out who was following you.
Yes, I won every time.