Jackie's Diary
Appearances
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
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Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
He invited a number of students to go down. I think we were in grade 12.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
And we, you know, served alcohol, drank alcohol. And later, I didn't know this at the time, but later Jeannie told me the details of that evening for her.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
She and he were downstairs in the basement making out.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
I think a lot of the problem is that people won't see this as rape with Jeannie and Anne-Marie because it wasn't violent. But it didn't need to be violent because it was emotionally violent, you know? It was like a drop of water on an ice cube. It just slowly wore away at it, right? And so it wasn't a smash because it didn't need to be. That wasn't his M.O. So that's what I think people think.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Oh, well, she wasn't raped. She consented. Well, she didn't consent. She was slowly led to having sex with a man who was double her age and her teacher.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Besides Jeannie and Rita, I also remember him being very, a similar vibe was given off with
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
I think his whole teaching career was blippity blip blip, blip after another, right?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
I have no idea why. And yeah, they're excellent evidence because I'm not a so-called victim. I do feel like this man has taken up more of my life than I need him to take up.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Jeannie didn't have any boyfriends in high school. I don't know if Anne-Marie did. But I always had a boyfriend pretty much throughout high school. So maybe that was my luck. I think I was pulled into that path and somehow ran the other way. The stars did not align or they did align. And I wasn't a victim.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Well, I actually remember that conversation very, very well.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
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Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
And I saw him standing by himself and I talked to him and I thought, well, this is my chance because this was late in the year. I was going off to university. I figured, well, this is the time for me to say something.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
And I told him, I said, I know that Doug Walker has been carrying on with students. I probably at the time thought I knew for sure that he was involved with Jeannie, but we had never discussed it. So I told him about Jeannie. I told him about Rita. I mentioned other girls that I thought. I told him that he had propositioned me a couple of times, that I just spilled it.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
I said that he always was buying drinks for all the students.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Did the old, well, oh, hmm, hmm, well, yes, oh, I see, yeah, hmm. That was his reaction. And I guess we'll have to do something about this. And then I was shaking. Like, I don't know if I was red or white. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if I was heightened or drained. But at the end of it, I thought I felt very brave. And I thought, oh, my God, I finally did something.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
And nothing was done. And my sister was in the band. And I remember thinking. Something needs to be done because I don't want my sister to be a victim. And then nothing was done. And that was horrifying. How could nothing be done? You know, shame on him. Shame on Walker, but shame on that administrator.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Were you able to find out eventually why, like who was the catalyst who got Walker out of Markham? Maybe someone will come forward when all this hits the fan.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
And I'm just so happy that I, past Jackie, kept those diaries. You know, because even now, it's got dates and places and names.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
I feel angry, maybe more so, at the administration who saw it going on.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Julie, I'm besties with Jeannie McKay. I was not raped by Doug Walker, but it wasn't for lack of trying on his part. I have many, many diary entries of details. I would be more than happy to turn everything over to you and help in any way I can. I can't believe I still have my 16-year-old self diaries, but I do. Until then, Jackie Short.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Okay, Jackie Short. I was born in Kingston, Ontario. I grew up in Markham, Ontario. I went to Markham District High School. I was heavily involved in sports and music.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Jeannie was very, very closed off about the whole thing.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
I think he's a horrible person. And, you know, I went into music despite him, not because of him. And
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
I did the choir and then I did the musical and then I played in the band as well. I had always been interested in music. We were one of those families that sang in the car in four-part harmony. And my dad played the guitar and sang in the barbershoppers for a long, long time. And my mom sang in a kind of semi-professional choir.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
It's a very hard instrument to play.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
He was an enthusiastic teacher. He was sort of charismatic. He was very sort of wanted to be in with the kids.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
It was my 16th birthday that he, yeah, he gave me a big kiss on the lips. He'd have his arm around you a lot. He would come up close. You would sit on his lap. Like it was normalized as a kind of congenial, I don't know, brother, father figure, maybe not father. But until it became, until he was like kissing you on the lips. And I also have a photo of him
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
holding me and dipping me in a big dance move.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
We were 16 and smoking and drinking and stuff like that.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
And then as time went on, he began to realize that he was prone to fits of anger. He would yell. He would throw kids out of band. He would threaten to take them off trips. So then I remember being thankful I was on the good side of that. Because I was a very good student. I was a decent musician, I guess.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
Oh my God, it's horrifying to read what stuff I wrote.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
My next door neighbor kept a diary and I thought it was kind of cool. And so I started keeping a diary. was one of those little brown ones with the teeny little key. And I wrote in it in my little pencil. But anyways, it was about boys I liked and how much I weighed and what I wore to school and what marks I got and how my best friend was mad at me and, you know, just teenage stuff.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
And then, luckily, I wrote a lot about the culture of the band and what was happening and how Walker would take us out for dinner and buy us all drinks. And we were 15, 16, 17.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
And then I included a lot of these details about Walker.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E6: The diaries | The Banned Teacher
So I noticed personally that there was some sort of close relationship between them and that they would leave or come back together at lunchtime. and seemed to be inebriated. And he sort of smelled of alcohol. But you're in grade 10, beginning of 11. But yeah, it was very noticeable that he was with Rita. And I saw him kissing Rita when we were on our band trip to England.