Jacob Frey

Right.

And so, but they've taken a pretty extreme line on how they're doing.

I have not had that conversation because the way they're framing this up, sadly, is not about safety.

I don't even think it's about immigration.

I think this is political retribution.

Do you feel like it's all about George Floyd?

I don't know, George Floyd.

I think it's about Tim Walls.

It's it's, you know, the vice presidential candidate ran against Donald Trump.

And I think there is a I think perhaps Donald Trump is is unhappy that for three elections in a row, Minnesota did not support his candidacy.

I believe that he's trying to make a point here.

You know, it feels a little bit as if there were multiple things that were occurring in rapid succession that don't necessarily have anything to do with one another.

You know what I mean?

It almost feels like, remember, like post 9-11.

I remember, you know, you reporting on that, you know, 9-11.

And then you had going after the Taliban.

Then it was looking at Afghanistan.

Suddenly we're in Iraq again.

And so it was these things that, like, if you weren't paying a lot of attention, were seemingly linked, but they weren't at all.

And so we had an issue in our state around fraud.