Jacob Saffel

And that's a separate campground where the box of supplies was found.

And it's easy to blur those kinds of things together with this particular case.

So talk to me about Booms Flat specifically and that box of supplies.

I mean, and we hear yet again another sighting very similar later in this episode because we enter Murray Jenkins.

And what's interesting about his sighting and his story is it very much mirrors Barry's.

The seating configuration was changed a bit, though.

What Barry saw, if I'm not mistaken, Urban was in the backseat.

With Murray, Urban was driving.

And then we had some questions about the timing of that.

He makes kind of the claim that, well, first off, this is...

the Murray Jenkins involvement here is a direct result of a live investigation.

He heard the podcast, right?

And, and immediately contacted you.

Matter of fact, he, I think he says he turns it off after 10 minutes because no, no, wait, I don't want to mess with my story.

I know what I saw.

Right.

And he contacts you first.

So first off that, I mean, that is why you do what you do in real time.

Right.

And it's really cool to see these kinds of things happen, you know?