Jacoby Shaddix

You know, my mom came and just slap checked me into, you know, into shape.

Yeah.

And it was one of those like moments of clarity for one.

That was one of the first moments of clarity for me.

I was like, I think I got a problem.

Like this alcohol has got a hold of me.

And, uh, I, uh, I decided to get sober and I called my producer.

And right before we were moving to LA, Kelly and I, and my son, Mikhail at the time was maybe just like one year old.

And I'm like, we're packing up the family.

We're going down to LA.

Cause I wasn't about to go down to LA, just volatile and out of my head.

and uh call my producer and i'm like i'm getting sober and he's like you're gonna fuck do what and i remember he gave me attitude gave me lip about wanting to get sober he's like that's what's fucking wrong with all these musicians now everybody's getting sober and everything's fucking up rock and roll and i just remember like hanging up the phone going i'm rolling down to la to go punch this guy in the fucking face yeah that's terrible like fuck you

And I cooled off on the drive, got down there, you know, and we had this batch of songs and Scars was one of those songs.

And we presented all the songs to the producer.

And it was one of those songs that he, the producer was kind of like, nah, I'm not so sure about that one.

Like, it's good, but it's like, we would grade all of our songs.

Like, this is an A song, this is a B song, this is a C song.

And I think he graded it like a C. And we're like, we just knew that there was something special in this song.

And I think that because it was so different from the sound of like, quote, Papa Roach, that it wasn't necessarily caught, it didn't really catch the ear of the producer, but I feel like

Whenever we do something that kind of makes me feel a little uncomfortable creatively.