Jake Humphrey

Masculinity is...

hard work, but masculinity is also relying on other people.

Masculinity is being confused and trying to find the answer.

And I think that what we've done is we've taken how masculinity might have looked 100 years ago.

We've said it's toxic, and then we've said anytime that anyone shows any masculine traits in 2026, then it must be toxic.

And it's not true.

The reality is that masculinity and the role of a man has changed.

We're trying to work out

where we are at.

So you have to look at men in a new way, and I don't think a lot of people are.

If we're looking at our place in society, I do think that's complicated for men.

It was simpler before.

If you take my example even, and yours, Matt, my wife works really hard.

She does really well.

She's incredibly popular.

She does all of the stuff that she loves doing.

She earns lots of money.

So all of a sudden, the necessity for me to go out and do that is only personal to me.

She doesn't need it, even.

So it's sort of like, I'm...