Jake Humphrey

Well, I think it's stopping men from opening up.

I think that most people would... I think there's less fear about going to see a therapist than there is about opening up to people in your life.

Yeah, yeah.

But I think speaking to a therapist feels like a way bigger step than speaking to a partner or a friend.

So I think there's more fear attached to someone who's already in your life.

I kind of think that's a bit of a shame.

but it feels much less of a big deal.

It's stigmatized, isn't it?

Because I would think the opposite.

Like to actually sign them in therapy, I think it's a scary thing for a lot of men to say.

I would prefer to go somewhere or jump online and have a conversation with a stranger who's a professional and then just shut the laptop.

rather than open up to... I open up to my family and people I love when I feel like I need to, but I still think that I would see the therapy as like a professional transaction.

Yeah.

You know?

And that works for you.

You're not taking any risk.

You can jump on and you can literally just spew whatever you need to say.

And it's confidential, it's private, it's not going anywhere.

And also it's a profession.

You don't need to run the risk.